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| Strasburg leaves the field without saying a word. |
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| Broadcast: he's "got a beef" just as PFX shows K. |
These are Marvin Hudson (51)'s 2nd/3rd/4th ejections of 2013.
Marvin Hudson now has 6 points in the UEFL (-2 Previous + 2*[2 MLB + 0 Irrecusable Call] + 2 MLB + 2 Correct Call = 6).
Crew Chief Wally Bell now has 7 points in the UEFL's Crew Division (4 + 3 Irrecusable/Correct Call = 7).
*Pursuant to OBR Rule 9.01(d), the run scored prior to ejection: "If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play."
These are the 134th, 135th and 136th ejections of the 2013 MLB season.
This is the 63rd Manager ejection of 2013.
This is the 59th player ejection of 2013. Prior to ejection, Strasburg's line was 1.0 IP, 2 ER, 2 BB, HBP, HR.
This is the 60th player ejection of 2013. Prior to ejection, Hairston was 1-5 in the contest.
This is the Nationals' 6/7/8th ejection of 2013, 1st in the NL East (WAS 8; ATL 7; NYM, PHI 4; MIA 2).
This is Stephen Strasburg's first career MLB ejection.
This is Davey Johnson's 2nd ejection of 2013 and first since July 25, 2013 (Mike Winters; QOC = Correct).
This is Scott Hairston's 1st ejection of 2013 and first since July 1, 2010 (Ron Kulpa; QOC = N/A).
This is Marvin Hudson's first ejection since August 1, 2013 (Troy Tulowitzki; QOC = Incorrect).
Wrap: Washington Nationals vs. Atlanta Braves, 8/17/13
Video: Strasburg's third consecutive wild pitch overall results in a run and automatic ejection (ATL)
Video: Sequence of Strasburg's HBP of Upton, three consecutive wild pitches and speechless EJ (WAS)
Video: Hairston takes a 2-2 heater at the knees to earn a strikeout, argues to earn an ejection (WAS)
No one in the truck had the presence in mind to bleep out the second f-bomb?
ReplyDeleteBoth easy ejections. Good pitchers don't miss that badly three times in a row. Pitch to Hairston was clearly a strike.
lol'd at he's got a beef as your pitch map thing shows it is a strike.
ReplyDeleteClearly intentional, Johnson's a real piece of work for arguing that. Two consecutive pitches behind a batter, after being warned after you nailed a batter immediately after a home run...
ReplyDeleteAs the MASN guys said, after Upton was hit, that should have settled the score between the two clubs. Instead, Strasburg threw at or someone told him to hit Simmons after he walked Schafer on a few inside pitches... coupled with Strasburg's actions in walking straight off the field, that's just confirmation that it was all on purpose.
As for Hairston, all I've got is "he's got a beef" - cue the pitch tracker showing a clear strike! The game is obviously ready for computer robots and instant replay balls and strikes...
Inside the mind of a Major League pitcher: "Oh dear, I seem to have made a mistake. I have managed to give up a home run to the first batter I faced. Clearly this is the fault of people on the opposing team that were not even on the field at the time of the incident and not my terrible pitching. Surely it is a good idea to throw this solid object at them at velocities that could cause death were I to even slightly miss my target. People have been doing it for a long time, so that means it doesn't make me a horrible human being!"
ReplyDeleteStrasburg didn't hit Upton because he gave up the lead off homer. The whole thing is actually a carryover from the two teams last meeting. Recall that Julio Tehran hit Bryce Harper after he pimped a homerun, which caused the benches to clear. Then last night, Braves starter Alex Wood hit Harper with a curveball. Obviously no intent there and Harper laughed it off with Freedie Freeman at first. But later, reliever Luis Avilan drilled Harper in the shoulder with a fastball. Avilan's reaction indicated no intent either but, when a guy gets hit three times, intentional or not, retaliation is in order.
ReplyDeleteStrasburg hitting Upton should've settled it. But then he throws inside a few times to Schafer, then uncorks a WP way outside to Simmons. This prompted pitching coach Steve McCatty to come out and have a very animated conversation with Strasburg (orders perhaps). The next two pitches were behind Simmons, prompting the ejection.
Now it should be over, but considering that Tehran pitches Sunday, and the fact that the Nats are way out of it after being preseason favorites to win the East, who knows what will happen.
Really stupid, uninformed response here BABACop. Braves plunked Harper three times in last two games, twice with seemingly obvious intent and the fact is that Justin Upton took a ridiculously slow home run trot the game before Teahren took umbrage with Harper getting around the bases a full 5'seconds faster than Upton had the night before.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what happened with Strasburg and Simmons, but if the Nats waited through parts of three games for a "situationally appropriate" time to retaliate against Upton, what possibly beyond a physical issue would explain moving a runner from first to home on three wild pitches -- the first of which was at least five feet off the plate on the opposite side -- to try to hit Andrelton Simmons in a then one-run game?
Love Marvin's EJ mechanic :"Boom"!
ReplyDeleteThis the part of baseball that needs to go BYE BYE. If I want to see grown men throwing balls at each pother, I'll watch DODGEBALL. Fucking grow up, athletes. You're not helping your team.
ReplyDeleteYeah, athletes have never let personal interests interfere with their team! You're hitting that thing too much - it's PUFF PUFF PASS.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I am not so sure that Strasburg did this on purpose. Rick Ankiel, anyone? I see it both ways. 2nd inning, 3 or 4 wild pitches....Not indicative (necessarily) of vengeance. I'd be quasi-concerned if I were a Nats fan. Jordan Zimmerman ain't gonna carry your squad alone.
ReplyDeleteHmm, isn't it possible that Strasburg had some (Ankiel-type) issues? I used to watch him pitch as a high school athlete. When his command is off, it's WAY off.
ReplyDeleteStrasburg had the right to throw at Andrelton Simmon. Braves have thrown at Harper 3 times this season. Marvin Hudson should not have thrown Strasburg and Johnson out of the game.
ReplyDeleteI know it is hard to understand and follow baseball from the players point of view, but I will try and explain it to you: Upton had pimped a HR worse than Harper did a few weeks ago, so the Nats threw at him. It had nothing to do with the leadoff HR. I will type slower next time if need be.
ReplyDeletePossible, yes. In fact, if McCatty hadn't come out and talked to him in a very animated fashion, I'd be inclined to believe his command was off. It might have been anyway. But it was almost like Strasburg was ordered to hit Simmons and didnt really want to, so McCatty comes and chews him out.
ReplyDeleteThe Upton HBP was definitely intentional and I don't have a problem with it. But I'm not sure if they were trying to hit Simmons or not. That whole situation was bizarre.
Dude, get real. I'll give you the Tehran incident. Yeah, it was intentional. Harper pimped a HR and paid the price. But if you're throwing at somebody, you don't throw a spike curveball (Wood), and you sure don't throw at a guy up 2-1 with a runner on (Avilan). Learn baseball situations and get a freaking clue.
ReplyDeleteWell, good luck with that. It's been a part of MLB for years. Matter of fact, there's not as much of it now as there was years ago. Players didn't watch HR's against guys like Gibson and Drysdale because they knew they'd get their heads knocked off if they did. But Barry Bonds became the crown prince of pimping HR's and many pitchers looked the other way. So it's allowed to go on more today.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to give umpires the authority to eject players for unsportsmanlike conduct then fine. But I don't want to see a player ejected for pimping a HR, and I don't think the umpires want that responsibility either.
wasn't there a runner on in the Simmons situation (in fact a run scored)?
ReplyDeleteYep, which makes that situation more bizarre. Again, if McCatty doesn't come out and chew on Strassburg, I'm inclined to believe he just lost his control.
ReplyDeleteI can't figure out if you are just blinded by being a Nats fan, Connar, or if you just have no clue about baseball. You seem to be slow, so, despite the efforts of others, I'll try to make you understand.
ReplyDelete1. Last week, Harper pimps homerun. Tehran hits Harper, benches clear, warnings are issued. No further incidents that game.
2. Friday night, Wood hits Harper with a curveball. Clearly no intent. You are showing your ignorance if you argue. Avilan hits Harper with a fastball; nobody thinks it's intentional, but warnings are issued nonetheless.
3. Saturday's game, there's not going to be much tolerance for the throwing-at business. Heyward leads off with a HR, Strasburg hits Upton. Intentional, but thrown in the right place, no fight breaks out, warnings are issued. At that point, it should be over. The Nationals have responded to the Braves incident from DC last week. Fast forward an inning, Strasburg throws two consecutive fastballs behind Simmons. No action on the first one, immediate ejection on the second. Strasburg doesn't even argue.
Did the Nats have the "right" to retaliate? Sure they did! And so they hit Upton. But when warnings are issued, you've got to let it go for that game, or there is going to be an ejection. The difference between the two incidents is that when the Braves had warnings issued, they stopped, hence no ejection. The Nats on the other hand continued, and Hudson runs him.
I'm not a fan of either team, but I played the game at the collegiate level and umpired in professional baseball for 6 years. I don't usually weigh in on these debates, because there really isn't any point in trying to explain to people who are blinded by their fandom. I simply think your problem is ignorance, rather than stupidity. Here's hoping I'm right.
Yes, TS, that was bizarre. I think that's likely why Hudson let the first pitch behind Simmons' back go. But after the second one, Marvin has no choice but to eject Strasburg. If he doesn't, then the Braves are going to come back and throw behind a Nats hitter, and you're almost certainly going to have a fight. The ONLY way to end that stuff was to eject Strasburg.
ReplyDeleteDid Hudson eject Strasburg before the play concluded?
ReplyDeletePhil Cuzzi just ejected Dale Sveum for arguing a check swing call and Tom Hallion ejected James Russell from the dugout.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tip and for typing slower! It's good to have someone "on the inside", someone who knows the players and ins and outs of MLB so well!
ReplyDeleteIs your only point going to be "That's always how it has been." Of course, if we all thought that way white men might be the only American voting population. I really don't care how something "has always been done". I don't mind (what I consider) progress. So, in football, are you upset that the sport is focusing on CTE and attempting to circumvent more post-playing suicides? Check out CRICKET. It's been played relatively the same way (rugby too for that matter) for hundreds of years. Who moved my cheese?????
ReplyDeleteApparently Cuzzi threw out Sveum and Cubs pitcher James Russel was ejected by Tom Hallion, who was working third this afternoon.
ReplyDeleteNo the only whom has a right to throw anyone is the umpire and that thrown out of the game.
ReplyDeleteThey have no such right. A baseball thrown at Major League-level velocities is deadly. To attempt to hit someone with said baseball is therefore assault with a deadly weapon. The only reason people are not arrested for it, and it has been attempted, is that a court ruled it was impossible to determine intent.
ReplyDeleteVery well then. Inside the mind of a Major League pitcher, revised edition: "Cursed! I have been cursed! The evil Braves of Atlanta have placed upon me a terrible curse from which I fear I will never recover. They hath completed the evil rite of the HBP was has caused me to lose control of my own actions! By striking the same person with a spherical object three times, they have caused, nay, forced me to throw a spherical object at them!"
ReplyDeleteVery well then. Inside the mind of a Major League pitcher, soap edition: "My self-esteem is so fragile that the actions of another person have caused me to go into a rage! Were I smarter, perhaps I would call myself a psychopath, but if I were smart enough to do that I probably wouldn't be acting like a small child!"
ReplyDeleteYes. The runner was on his way to home as the ejection occurred.
ReplyDeleteI would LOVE to see players forced to not act like children. It would be a fantastic improvement to the game as a whole.
ReplyDeleteFour wrongs don't make a right.
ReplyDelete3 weeks? Really? You're a drama queen and clowns like you are the reason umpires at all levels have to take their mop buckets with them to clean up messes all the time.
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