HP Umpire Alfonso Marquez ejected Giants Manager Bruce Bochy for arguing an out call in the bottom of the 8th inning of the Rockies-Giants game. With one out and one on, Giants batter Pablo Sandoval hit a 0-2
fastball from Rockies pitcher Matt Belisle in the air to shallow left-center field, retrieved by left fielder Carlos Gonzalez, who threw to third baseman Nolan Arenado in an attempt to retire the advancing baserunner R1 Marco Scutaro. Replays indicate Arenado failed to tag Scutaro's person prior to his arrival at third base and that Scutaro did not appear to run more than three feet away from his base path, as in Rule 7.08(a)(1), the call was incorrect. At the time of the ejection, the contest was tied, 4-4. The Giants ultimately won the contest, 6-5, in 10 innings.
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| Arenado whiffs on his tag attempt of Scutaro. |
This is Alfonso Marquez (72)'s second ejection of 2013.
Alfonso Marquez now has 2 points in the UEFL (4 Previous + 2 MLB + -4 Incorrect Call = 2).
Crew Chief Ted Barrett now has 1 point in the Crew Division (1 Previous + 0 Incorrect Call = 1).
This is the 43rd ejection of 2013.
This is the 21st Manager ejection of 2013.
This the Giants' 2nd ejection of 2013, 3rd in the NL West (LAD 4; ARI 3; SF 2; SD 1; COL 0).
This is Bruce Bochy's first ejection since April 30 (Bill Miller; QOC = N).
This is Alfonso Marquez's first ejection since April 28 (Ron Gardenhire; QOC = Y).
Wrap: Colorado Rockies vs. San Francisco Giants, 5/25/13
This is Alfonso Marquez's first ejection since April 28 (Ron Gardenhire; QOC = Y).
Wrap: Colorado Rockies vs. San Francisco Giants, 5/25/13
Not the first call that Marquez kicked in this game ... And talk about horrible positioning! Lazy Alfonso!
ReplyDeleteThis maybe a silly question, but for the upcoming inter league, two on two format, will they have the same umpire crews in both cities, or will they change it up?
ReplyDeleteABSOLUTE CHALLENGE ON THE INCORRECTNESS!!! THE RUNNER CLEARLY CHANGES HIS LINE TO THE BASE PATH IN ORDER TO AVOID THE TAG!
ReplyDelete7.08 Any runner is out when—
(a) (1) He runs more than three feet away from his base path to avoid being tagged
unless his action is to avoid interference with a fielder fielding a batted ball. A
runner’s base path is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight
line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely;
As the tag is being applied, Scutaro clearly takes a huge step away from the fielder and does not slide in a straight line towards the bag. He slides towards the dugout and even misses touching the bag by a big margin. Despite the bias against Marquez who gets himself into trouble a lot, he got this call right.
I think we should wait until we get quotes from Bochy on what Marquez said to him.
ReplyDeleteI generally don't mind challenges. This one bothers me. This is clearly an argument over whether the tag was applied or not. You see him point and then wait [and then call him out on the tag]. Marquez probably knew that he missed it -- he was not in great position and he took it for quite some time. You're challenging something that he didn't call.
ReplyDeleteNow to the baseline point -- in professional baseball [for me, at least], for someone to be out of the baseline, it has to be blatant. And that generally occurs in between run-downs. He's well within the baseline. The notion that he "does not slide in a straight line toward the bag" is absolutely ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous at all. He clearly changes direction in an effort to avoid the tag and violates the rule. The fielder took a step and reached and Scutaro ran away from him to avoid the tag. He's out.
ReplyDeleteIt's completely ridiculous. You're allowed to do that unless you go WAY out of the baseline. It occurs as to where the tag was directed -- so he has three feet to move ONCE the tag attempt is applied. He's safe.
ReplyDeleteGuess he didn't expect that ball to drop, got lazy, and ended up getting straightlined on that call. That makes you look really sloppy out there.
ReplyDeleteMight I suggest not prefacing your post(s) with ALL CAPS AND CRAPLOADS OF PUNCTUATION??????? It immediately puts your post in a negative light.
ReplyDeleteActually it is ridicules I was watching this live and he did not change his base path or do any thing that any other base runner does if I used ue logic every base runner sliding into home that slides as wide as he can to make the catchers tag longer should be called out for being out side the base path
ReplyDeleteHey Gil just as a side too all of this can we get Marquez's numbers for the game cuse from the ford strike zone used on root sports he missed at least 15-20 pitches and I don't know how accurate that is but Marquez did have his fair share of conversations
ReplyDeleteLooks like a bad day at the office for Marquez.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what replays you're watching. He did a side step, then slid in a straight line and ended up 4 feet away from 3rd base on the home plate slide. Violation of the rule.
ReplyDeleteObviously not, since Marquez ruled him out (properly).
ReplyDeleteEveryone is failing to see the point. The rule says the base path is "a straight line from the runner and the base he is attempting to reach safely." Scutaro does slide in a straight line while avoiding the tag. Too bad this straight line is to a point 4 feet away from 3rd base on the home plate side. Therefore he is not sliding directly to third base in a straight line. Had he slid in a straight line from his position to 3rd base, he would have been close enough for Arenado to tag him. He is no where near 3rd base when he finishes his slide and has violated the rule.
ReplyDeleteIt's just the three feet [left or right] at the application of the tag. ... You're lost in the "straight line" phrase. He does not have to slide in a straight line.
ReplyDeleteI remember this rule as the 'DP' rule. For the following scenario, R1 is at first base. BR hits a ground ball to the second baseman. The second baseman attempts to tag him... so, in this case, the runner must stay within three feet of the "straight line" between first and second base. So, say the second baseman fields the ball behind the straight line and R1 attempts to evade the tag on the outside of him: he'd be ruled out for being outside of the baseline [presuming he's outside of the three feet width].
In this case, at the point of the tag: the "straight line" occurs from second base to third base. The line occurs at the point of the tag. He can go three feet to the inside or the outside of the tag without being ruled out of the baseline. In this case, he runs three feet or less to the inside of the tag. When he missed the tag, at that point, the "straight line" comment becomes invalid. He's obviously attempting to reach third base, and as long as he doesn't make a mockery of getting there [or completely abandons his right to the base], he's entitled to the bag.
Whats funny is that if Marquez didn't blow those 2 calls, Angel Pagan would never have hit a run 2 walk off inside the park home run which was the highlight of the day.
ReplyDeleteI believe you are lost on both senerios. The baseline is established from where the runner starts when the ball is hit in both situations. On this play the runner could not reach the bag during the slide so he is considered out of the baseline. Runner is OUT.
ReplyDeletecould not agree more,
ReplyDeleteonce that ball is hit, you've gotta anticipate a play at third and race over there,
IMO, a huge part of umpiring is positioning and IMO, he was off on his positioning there,
I suggest you consult the rulebook. Here is an excerpt from Rule 7.08(a)1: "A runner's base path is established when the tag attempt occurs."
ReplyDeleteKevin Frandsen got ejected by Mike Winters
ReplyDeleteYep. Looked from the one angle they showed like no-swing. But spiking the bat in that spot should get you tossed every time.
ReplyDeleteBad day. We all have them. He's still 100% better than Angel Hernandez.
ReplyDeleteAM is a great umpire.
Jim Joyce is regarded as one of the best umpires in baseball. He screwed up a call that could have gotten a SP a perfect game.
ReplyDeleteFonzy made a bad call. To the naysayers and critics, I say SHIT HAPPENS. That's why pencils have erasers.
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Thanks for the good laugh, some of you guys are taking this WAY too seriously!
ReplyDeleteTwo things stand out in the rulings:
ReplyDelete"he was not much to the outside of the line between second and third at the time the tag attempt started and was easily able to reach the base on his slide" by RichMSN
"The runner is going towards the bag nullifying any proposed out of the baseline call." by tmac
The video replay contradicts those statements. Scutaro was too far outside the base path and was not able to reach 3rd easily. He had to scramble back to the bag when he finished his slide. This is because he did not go straight towards the bag.
In the end, it is what it is. You guys made the ruling and it will stand. But I'm sure there was a difference of opinion from whoever evaluated their game.
OK, let's back up. 3 feet. If a runner moves off his base path in either direction by 3 feet he should still be able to reach back and touch the bag. In this case, he swung so far to the inside he could not reach back and touch the bag. That's more than 3 feet - who cares where it starts from - I think everyone can agree that his path should take him to the base!!! if he cannot reach the base then he is >3 feet off the base path.
ReplyDeleteHowever - he does point, he is in bad position (getting there late) and called him out but for the wrong reason. He called him out on a non-existent tag.
Why is the line in the 2nd photo showing the "Path straight into..." going to the runner's armpit instead of to the point where the runner's feet are? Why is the other line in the photo pointing from the runner's knee instead of the point where the feet are at and ending at the point of the runner furthest from the base? All of these are way off. No wonder there is the thought that there is a baseline issue here!! Really, to try to measure the distance from the baseline using the part of the body furthest from the base or baseline is absurd and completely unfair to the runner.
ReplyDeleteI know, this was almost 2 weeks ago. I don't mean to beat a dead horse, well, actually I do.
ReplyDeleteHow ridiculous is it to claim this was out of the baseline and using anything but the closest part of the runner's body to measure the baseline? I mean, if the Scutaro was too far out of the baseline and should be out then so too should Rodriguez (EJ 028 http://www.closecallsports.com/2013/05/mlb-ejection-028-marty-foster-1-joe.html). I mean, look at how far his feet are from the baseline...probably well beyond 6 feet!
Now I think my point is made.