These are Jerry Layne (24)'s second, third, fourth and fifth ejections of 2012.
Jerry Layne now has 6 points in the UEFL (-2 Previous + 4*[2 MLB + 0 Irrecusable Call] = 6).
Crew Chief Jerry Layne now has 11 points in the UEFL's Crew Division (7 Previous + 4*[1] = 11).
These are the 150th, 151st, 152nd and 153rd ejections of 2012.
These are the 64th, 65th and 66th player ejections of 2012.
These are the 64th, 65th and 66th player ejections of 2012.
This is the Cubs' 6th ejection of 2012, T-1st in the NL Central (CHC, MIL 6; HOU 5; PIT, STL 4; CIN 3).
This is the second consecutive Chicago-Washington contest with a Cubs ejection.
This is Jamie Quirk's first ejection since September 11, 2007 (Mike DiMuro; QOC = Correct).
This is Steve Clevenger's first ejection since August 9 (Jeff Nelson; QOC = Incorrect).
This is Manuel Corpas' first career MLB ejection.
This is Michael Gonzalez's first ejection since July 10, 2011 (Marty Foster; QOC = Irrecusable) [Fight].
This is Steve Clevenger's first ejection since August 9 (Jeff Nelson; QOC = Incorrect).
This is Manuel Corpas' first career MLB ejection.
This is Michael Gonzalez's first ejection since July 10, 2011 (Marty Foster; QOC = Irrecusable) [Fight].
This is Jerry Layne's first ejection since August 13 (Bruce Bochy; QOC = Incorrect).
This one appears to have turned into quite a scrum.
ReplyDeleteOh Cubs. What a year it's been.
ReplyDeleteHaha anyone else see that Michael Gonzalez's last ejection was also a fight :D xD
ReplyDelete"We try not to be blind homers."
ReplyDeleteImmediately followed by them being blind homers.
overall, well done by the crew...but how were porter and castillo not tossed?? don't really get that one.
ReplyDeleteThis is why MLB should crack down on bench-clearing brawls. One game suspension and/or fine for leaving the bench. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteJust out of curiosity is it the norm for the ejections to be credited to the PU during a situation where the crew confers or is it just the fact that Layne is the crew chief?
ReplyDeleteIt's usually the PU
ReplyDeleteSo why was Quirk ejected was it for yelling at Bo Porter?
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ReplyDeleteIt would depend on the crew chief. The ejection is officially credited to who files the report. In this case, Layne is clearly seen taking the point with the decision making and communication thereof. But the information used to make that decision came from the whole crew, for instance, you can see that Estabrook was right there when cleavenger starts the scrum, so he probably came into the crew meeting saying, "catch has got to go".
This is all very interesting to me. Porter clearly left his position to argue with Quirk. Why wasn't he dumped? Also, Castillo probably should have been gone. The interesting part is that only 1 person from the Nationals got ejected. Morse should have been dumped and maybe Burnett too if they got another Cub. It was pretty welled handled but the resulting action from the scrum was very one-sided.
ReplyDeleteHAHA. Love the Nationals feed. "This is unfair to the team that hasn't done anything". How porter didn't get dumped in the first instance for leaving his position to argue with the cubs dugout is pretty mystifying. Pretty well handled by the umps, although the ejections were a bit one-sided.
ReplyDeleteGod the Nats commentators are awful, and they have been for years. They're almost as bad as Hawk.
ReplyDeleteCubs fan here. But I gotta say that Castillo's gotta go here. Just plain obvious. I agree the Nats 3B coach shoulda been tossed, too. I'd love to know what Quick said while Cleavenger was replacing his mit.
ReplyDeleteJeff Nelson, and Jerry Layne, the two most underrated mlb umpires in the game. Their good. Those two deserve to go the playoffs plus world series.
ReplyDeleteAre you forgetting Layne's plate jilob in game 7 of the world Series last year.....I don't think the Rangers have yet!
Deletewell these commentators obviously have no clue how these types of situations work on a professional baseball field...honestly.
ReplyDeletethis crew did an excellent job quelling a situation that could have become much uglier....
ReplyDeleteYou can't eject one and not the other. Nobody in the building knew what was going on until Porter walked over to the dugout and started flailing his arms. Either both, or neither...
ReplyDeleteCouple of interesting quotes:
ReplyDelete"Castillo's a Rule 5 kid who's thrown a lot of them pitches today," Chicago manager Dale Sveum said. "There was no intention to hit Bryce Harper or anything because of what happened"
Hey Dale, your catcher didn't even attempt to catch the pitch. Nobody's stupid enough to believe it was just a pitch that got away. Castillo probably would've been dumped had the umps noticed Clevenger's reaction. But with everything that took place, I could see how they missed that.
Then there's this quote from Jerry Layne:
ReplyDelete"All that stuff that happened, that was instigated by Quirk screaming out at Porter," plate umpire Jerry Layne said. "And the obscenities that he screamed out I just felt was inappropriate, and that's what caused everything. The reason he was ejected was he was the cause."
So if Quirk just shuts his yap, none of this happens. It's not the Nationals fault that the Cubs suck.
BTW, I'm a Braves fan and can't stand the Nationals or Harper. So I'm not being a homer here. The Cubs instigated this whole mess.
The only reason I can think of that Quirk got tossed and not Porter was that Quirk said something really outrageous (although I have no proof--just guessing).
ReplyDeleteAs for what started the confrontation in the first place, I think it may have been Werth taking a hack at a 3-0 pitch when the based were loaded and the Nats were up by five already.
If you think they're stealing signs, you change the freaking signs and move on (and the way the Cubs have played this year, I don't think they'd be doing any worse if the catcher held up a big sign that said "CURVE").
Bob Brenly on the Cubs telecast last night related how Bruce Froemming would handle a "brawl".
ReplyDelete"Bruce would go the center of the brawl and yell Look at all the tough guys, Look at all the tough guys." "Nobody wants to fight.. go back to your benches."
Bob said it worked every time.
i read jerry layne's quotes, so i understand why he allowed porter to stay, but i still feel he should've been ejected.
ReplyDeleteYou don't go over to another team's dugout. If the arguement was b/c werth swung at a 3-0 pitch, get over it. The cubs are in rebuilding mode and the nats are in winning mode.
BTW, i'm a cubs fan,
So, I saw the video and thought the umps missed it on not tossing Porter; then read Layne's comments and it made sense.
ReplyDeleteKinda gotta figure that they had reasons for the lop-sided ejections (BTW, I feel bad we're using the term lop-sided when it was 2-1--always lop-sided if it's an even number; I would say lop-sided if there's a margin of at least two between the teams)too. They didn't give a warning in advance, and I don't like it when umps play mind-readers. Remember, there are a few Davidson's and West's that are known for egos--do we really want those guys reading minds out there?
If there's any criticism of the umps, criticize for not issuing warnings when the benches first cleared. Truth be told, though, the real criticism should be of the rules for not requiring a warning when players leave the bench. That would solve the issue.
Nats commentator Bob Carpenter is a bad just bad- Its not good sportsmanship to swing at a 3-0 pitch in a 5-run game. I don't blame the Cubs they should be mad- Harper is going to go to anger management classes- Just take your base and this might not have happened or at least Layne and his crew could better take control of the situation. Instead, the hot shot that Harper is has to start a brawl, he is the ignitor of the situation and in my opinion should be ejected- granted the cubs started the stir-up when Porter and Quirk when at it but you can also think of it as if the Nats had started it. A similar situation could have happened earlier this season when Jerry Narron and Ron Roenicke were ejected (Brian Knight) in a 9-1 lead over the Astros. I think it was the ninth inning as well. Just show a little sportsmanship on the baseball field they are all grown men out there so play like it. To be quite frank, Morse should have been tossed too. Porter too, he came over and was shouting in the Cubs dugout, and he wasn't tossed? What is wrong with this?
ReplyDeleteThis is a retarded comment. If you don't want a guy swing at a 3-0 pitch, throw strikes and don't put yourself in that situation. It is a team sport, but every player is out for a higher contract, based on their stats.
ReplyDeleteI suppose you are going to say a football team should fall down instead of score an easy touchdown when they are up by 3 touchdowns. You don't like it... Stop me is the way the game should be played.
I still feel that others should have been ejected and that it was poorly handled by the crew. But how often does a hitter like Jayson Werth get a 3-0 green light in a tie game? In a time where pitch count is so important not very often.
ReplyDeleteIt was 7-2 in the bottom of the fifth. If I have the OBR down, the Cubs were still entitled to bat in the sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth. That is 12 more outs. They had only used up 15 of the 27 outs. Didn't the Cubs give up 5 runs to the Marlins after the Bartman "affair"?
ReplyDeleteIf the Cubs think it violates the unsaid rules of baseball to swing at a 3-0 pitch in that situation, then they need to go soak their heads in a pail of goat urine.
ANON = LMS1953
Anon 11:43, thats the dumbest comment I've ever heard. You do realize that the Nationals blew a 9 run lead earlier this year? You're a friggin lunatic if you think that was bad sportsmanship.
ReplyDeleteNext thing you're going to tell me is that the pitch to Harper wasn't intentional. All you have to do is watch Clevenger's non-reaction to realize the intent. I can't stand the brat myself but he had a legitimate beef in this case. What a moron you are!
I am a Cubs fan, and I completely agree with the outcome of the brawl. I also think that the Nationals' announcers in the MLB video are being giant hypocrites because they keep saying that it is unfortunate that the umpires now have to act as mind readers if a pitcher throws near a player, but they're tryint to read Castillo's mind on the initial pitch. Not saying that they are wrong about the intent, just think it's a bit hypocritical.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what you were reading but I never said that the pitch to Harper was not intentional- I said that it was not needed for Harper to charge and make a big deal about it- the pitch was inside, so just go down to first- there is no reason to walk towards the mound- What does that accomplish? It may result in a suspension to one of the best (not smartest) young players in the game and hurt the Nationals in the long term. And people just loose respect for Bryce Harper. Its one thing to walk slowly down to first base and have a few words for the catcher but to quickly get in Clevenger's face and walk towards the mound is not necessary,
ReplyDeleteI doubt that the Nats blew the 9-run lead against the Cubs- and that is irrelevant to this situation. I am just expressing my opinion about this situation. I would never say someone is a "friggin lunatic" for expressing their opinion about something. But if that makes you feel better then go right ahead........
Why would he walk to first when the ball didn't hit him? Get a clue.
ReplyDeleteThis crew nailed the situation. Quirk thought Werth was wrong to swing at a 3-0 pitch with the bases loaded and two out in the bottom of the fifth. Quirk was wrong. To yell at Werth and then Porter was belligerent. This is big league baseball....you play to win. Quirk baited Porter and that is why Porter didn't get run. Quirk was surprised he got run and stated several times, "what, I can't yell from the dugout anymore?". He's a bad guy and Portr has respect from the umpires. That is why Porter remained inthe game. Quirk is a non respected coach by all the umpires. He was got red handed yelling at the other team trying to incite. He got what he deserved. Why would a team want a perrienial loser on their bench( Royals, Rockies, Cubs)?
ReplyDeleteTrust me on this one.....
He was also on the Astros coaching staff. They are bad as well.
ReplyDeleteAnon @ 1:21 If that was aimed at me, go back and read what I wrote again. I didn't say it was the right thing to do. I said it might have been why it happened. Try and keep up, will ya?
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