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| Ellis shows up Porter, who tosses him. |
These are Alan Porter (64)'s second and third ejections of 2013.
Alan Porter now has 0 points in the UEFL (4 + 2*[2 + -4] = 0).
Crew Chief Jerry Layne now has 5 points in the UEFL's Crew Division (5 Previous + 0 Incorrect Call = 5).
These are the 113th and 114th ejections of the 2013 MLB season.
This is the 49th player ejection of 2013. Prior to ejection, Ellis was 1-3 in the contest.
This is the Dodgers' 10th/11th ejection of 2013, 1st in the NL West (LAD 11; ARI 7; SF 4; COL, SD 3).
This is Mark Ellis' 1st ejection of 2013 and first since June 22, 2008 (Lance Barksdale; QOC = Correct).
This is Don Mattingly's 3rd ejection of 2013 and first since July 31, 2013 (Bill Miller; QOC = Correct).
This is Alan Porter's first ejection since July 2, 2013 (John Gibbons; QOC = Correct).
Wrap: Los Angeles Dodgers vs. Chicago Cubs, 8/2/13
Video: Ellis is ejected for excessive complaining, histrionics; Steve Lyons proves he is no Vin Scully (LAD)
29 comments :
The Eric Collins/Steve Lyons team is so bad. When Puig made his diving catch later in the game, they first said it was a trap because Greg Gibson "changed his call." Idiots - Gibson signalled the ball fair with his left arm before signaling an out with his right fist. You can see it in the "Must C" compilation of the play. The Chicago Cubs crew had absolutely no problem recognizing the out.
Petition to get Scully to call all Dodger games again - I don't care if you build a freaking recording studio in his house and he does voice over for it remotely - just get Brickhead Lyons off the TV.
the thing is nobody comes close to being as good as scully
Pretty sure he said "You're so bad." I'm sure Mattingly said something bad enough as well. How are those quick hooks? Out of 114 ejections I think the only good announcing we have had were when Vin Scully was involved.
He clearly said "That is so bad"- while I don't love the announcing, I agree that I wouldn't necessarily toss someone for that...that is a case where Porter could have looked the other way.
I love how anytime a player reacts to an umpire he is "showing up the umpire." Give me a break!
I doubt it had anything to do with what he said but everything to do with the fact he was arguing a strike call and that is simply not allowed. State your feelings and walk away, if you turn and face the umpire and voice your feeling a second time as he did, you're asking for an ejection. Mattingly knows he cannot argue balls and strikes yet he clearly is doing so and he is rightfully tossed. The pitch may have been an incorrect call, but the ejections were justified.
What, in your opinion, would constitute "showing up" the umpire?
Doesn't look like Ellis said any magic words. It was stopping and making the gesture while he said it that probably got him tossed. If he says it as he picks up the bat and walks off he probably stays in the game.
Porter had probably just had it after the Cubs had been riding him earlier about how bad of a job he was doing.
You can't see it on any of the video, so I'm only speculating here. But I believe that when Ellis tossed the bat in disgust, Porter hit him with an equipment violation...then Ellis turns and says "That's so bad", so he tosses him.
Bad situation all around. Blown calls and professional athletic egos mix like caramel and broccoli.
If that happened, then Porter should face discipline. Ellis flipped his bat because it was ball 4.
He clearly tossed the bat the way he did expressing disgust with the call.
Unless you are a shrink how do you KNOW?
Certainly not this!!
I do not like the quick trigger here BUT arguing strike calls is moot. I guarantee Tichenor would have tossed him sooner! Porter is not alone.
I think it is for simply arguing. Think Todd Tichenor would have let this go unpunished? Others might be more ... Malleable.
Common sense? Just look at his body language after he tosses the bat.
The arm was already in the tossing motion when he found out it was a strike.
Ump Alan Porter is one of the worst I've seen in a long time. I read today that after seeing the video that HE is unlikely going to file a complaint against Mattingly. Porter CLEARLY turn his shoulder into Mattingly. Why can't Mattingly file a complaint against Porter? His ego is out of control ... tossing a guy who hasn't been tossed in 14 years. You SUCK Porter. You're a piece of shit with an ego. Period. You don't deserve to be in control of your remote control at home. MLB has a lot to deal with ... PED's and Umps who are clearly not ready.
Ah. I disagree. People don't always exhibit the same countenance when expressing chagrin or disgust or disgruntlement. I've watched Ellis play for years and I cannot recall him ever raising his voice or being vehement over anything. Yes, there is always a first time, but the heave-ho here (for me) is too quick. But that is the umpire's prerogative.
Maybe actually re-enacting the play? (With guest actors?) =-)
Need a tissue?
Who hadn't been ejected in 14 years?
This site has gone to hell with posts from anti-umpire idiots short on facts.
I actually think its been better this year than last year. But yes the popularity of the site is getting higher so in a few years this may be just like every other site.
If he's talking about Mark Ellis not being ejected in 14 years, he needs to be brushing up on his homework. Retrosheet says Ellis was tossed one other time in his career - 2008 by Lance Barksdale over a called third strike. More importantly, Ellis has been in the majors since 2002 - by my math, that doesn't add up to 14 years of service.
I also know he can't be talking about Mattingly since he was tossed the previous game against the Yankees. Plus, Porter is only in his 2nd year as a FT ump, so he can't be saying him, either.
Oh, and where was the contact with the shoulder??
I couldn't agree with this sentiment more! You can't argue balls and strikes. Turning to the ump and telling him he is wrong is an argument. It's just like a 4th grader telling the teacher they are wrong in front of the class--teacher has to put an end to the situation and go on.
Mattingly is disappointing here....he knows he can't argue balls and strikes. Go get your guy and move on--not worth getting tossed over.
When will everyone realize that umps are constantly monitored and watched and graded. If these guys truly are that bad, they won't be for long--or they won't be around for long. Baseball can't afford to have umps who aren't able to do their job!
I love the truly awful analogy, but I'm guessing your 4th grade teacher must have ruled you with an iron fist so I suppose we can chalk it up to childhood trauma.
Obviously baseball can afford to have umps who can't do their job, missed calls are common but they have always been common. It's the last major sport where ump mistakes are not only expected, but for some asinine reason are cherished as part of the sport...
I understand the rule. I understand why it's worded the way it is. Ellis argued a called strike, he is then eligible to be ejected. No big surprise it happened, same for Mattingly...
It's rediculous. The rule makes sense because the last thing baseball needs is for the game to take longer than it normally does. If every player argued just incorrect calls that would take forever, add in the close but correct ones and no one watches anymore. It facilitates the game to force players to ignore bad calls and move on.
But the rule give the umpire the discretion on ejections, not so they have a free pass for tyranny, but so that they can keep order without having to eject everyone because even if used more sparingly, the threat of ejection with no appeal is still there.
It was a bad call. Mark's "That's so bad" is such mild "argument" over balls/strikes, and he's still walking to the dugout.
The shoulder Alan through into Mattingly is the icing on the cake. Any of you umpire homers that continue to defend the abuse of power after seeing that part, well enjoy the last few years before the MLB finally does what they should have done years ago and minimize the umpires into oblivion as a result of instances like this.
Porter knocked them out.
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